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Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2011.11.30 14:53:00 -
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One man's nerf is another man's buff. This is a good thing for the mining profession.
I wonder why I didn't see drone region guys crying for the poor miners who were getting screwed by them before today........ |
Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2011.11.30 15:42:00 -
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Sub Prime wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:One man's nerf is another man's buff. This is a good thing for the mining profession.
I wonder why I didn't see drone region guys crying for the poor miners who were getting screwed by them before today........ Sheesh, why bother posting? How do you think people in the drone regions should make money then? Just salvaging? Are you absolutely stupid? People in every other region generate more ISK doing anomolies that in drone space, drone anomolies get nerfed and you just say it a good thing for the mining profession. There is absoltely no reason to reside the the drone regions as it is. Did you know that the drone regions amount to 20% of all nullsec regions? They have the 2nd largest number of sov systems for a faction, yet you think the nerf they're having is fine. LOL, how about you get a clue about the ramifications of what you're saying before you post.
Im sorry, was afk and missed the tears, could you do it again please?
The truth is, people in the drone regions have been getting away with murder for years with those 10-15 minute hordes, the the detriment of miners who should be the primary source of minerals in the game. What you are doing is the same kind of crying the mission runners did when ccp turned off the unholy mineral faucet in lvl 4 missions (which also hurt the mining profession).
. CCP has known it was a problem for a long time and they are finally fixing it. Sorry your gravy train came to an end, but such is eve. You can always take up mining, or move to a real region lol.
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Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2011.11.30 16:05:00 -
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Sub Prime wrote:
So you're saying that drones shouldn't drop alloys and also that drones shouldn't have bounties or any other means of ISK revenue? I just want to clarify exactly what you mean.
Did I say anything about bounties?
I have no problem with people shooting drones to somehow generate isk, although I personally prefer my NPCs be of the pirate persuasion (Death To Guristas and all that).
The problem was they WAY they generated isk (not for me, but for miners, and by extension, for the rest of the game). CCP seems to be trying to fix that, and that's fine with me. |
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Posted - 2011.11.30 16:45:00 -
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Emperor Salazar wrote:Sub Prime wrote:
So you're saying that drones shouldn't drop alloys and also that drones shouldn't have bounties or any other means of ISK revenue?
Actually, I think drones should drop alloys. Minerals should come from ore only. Drones should drop tags like Sleepers do that need to be resold in empire (this is actually a buff IMO, as it means less trucking around alloys). I also think all regular rats (non commander/officer) should only result in metal scraps for salvage. Salvage should solely come from mag sites (yay buff to mag sites).
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Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2011.11.30 20:24:00 -
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Herrington Vance wrote:I think it is fairly obvious that, regardless of how much anyone agrees or disagrees with the concept of certain space being of dramatically lower value (or higher opportunity cost), CCP is trying to push drone-residents to get mobile and start hassling other regions for "better," space.
Ultimately, it makes little difference what we think about equitable anom equivalents. CCP has made it's agenda clear ages ago and they clearly think that this is their best bet to get sov. wars going again. Since the NC was evicted, I'll be they even think their plan has been a success thus far.
Personally, I don't think anything short of tech moons will ever be worth structure grinding over, but perhaps i'm under-estimating the boredom super pilots will experience without being able to smack subcaps around.
Sound thinking, but we may never know CCP's motivation for doing something like this.
Like I said, I'm more inclined to believe CCP's aim is more along the lines of fixing an old and pre-existing problem (the sheer amount of materials coming from drone regions, which affects markets AND a whole 'nother profession), just like they did when they nerfed loot drops from missions.
The people who have been spoiled by the old ways are complaining about it rather than trying to find ways to adapt. I don't fell sorry for them, the whole "shoot structure, get aggro, bring in noctis to salvage in complete safety" method was unfair to those of us who were NOT in drone regions. You know, us guys who have to kill the WHOLE sanctum to finish it lol.
Some of my drone region buddies are doing the same complaining, to which I said "can't you just put capital remote reps on your carrier and perma rep your noctis so it can survice the spawns?". They were all like "oh yea" lol.
Sorry drone regions require actual effort now, but thats EVE :) . |
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Posted - 2011.12.01 13:19:00 -
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orange offspring wrote:A GM told me that the changes to the hordes was because the original triggers was a bug letting players bypass them,
I can believe that, and all the people who profited from that bug and it's results (results detrimental to the mining profession and the EVE in general) simply need to get over the fact that the days of easy drone NPCing are gone. I wish CCP would go further, if Drone NPCs were made to be similar to other NPCs, the drone regions might be an attractive target. Moar war is better.
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Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2011.12.01 23:18:00 -
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Emperor Salazar wrote:
Why the personal attacks bro?
PS: If I disagree with you its a troll, amirite?
Yea, I wouldn't worry about that guy, you can see by his over emotional "responses" (lol) to me that he's probably the type that takes any disagreement as something personal. We all know people like him IRL.
Best just to ignore him. Most of us know the Horde nerf is a good thing for the game as a whole. Nerfs always negativley affect someone, some people aren't honest enough to say that they know the thing they loved that got nerfed needed it.
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Posted - 2011.12.02 02:46:00 -
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Widemouth Deepthroat wrote:Sub Prime wrote:Widemouth Deepthroat wrote:
Your last post said drone regions where always worse than normal npc space, I was just saying you were wrong. Up until Incursion (Nov '10) you could make easily x3-4 as much as people running anomalies in non-drone space.
When I did c5-6 wh we used to bring tanked proteus fit for tractor and salvager into the site so we can start clearing wrecks and collect loot instead of spending another 15-20mins doing it after the site is cleared. You can do the same in your drone anomaly :D
a) Yes, Hordes are worse than any Sanctum (the non drone 'equivalent'). and were still worse pre Crucible. b) I don't really care what it was like a year ago, I'm comparing pre to post . Trying to create a comparison between a year ago and a week ago vs now is plain stupid. c) You do realise that the alloys from a Horde take up approx 3000m3 of cargo space? Also, lol at trying to compare salvaging c5/6 wh's to salvaging hordes. use your brain...just because you salvage and collect loot in a can beside the proteus doesn't mean you have to haul it with proteus :D
How DARE you expect people to think for themselves and be creative!
You must be in the wrong game, BEGONE sir....
Hope your sarcasm meter dind't just explode :) .
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